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Posted by Bobidou23
Just to say, we've transcribed pretty much one-half of all videos on the site (29 more until we
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Posted by SilverWlf312
Hi, joined from John's tumblr. Fell into Mental Floss videos for transcribing and really only proofreading,
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Posted by kitchensink108
I created an intro guide, since a lot of people seem to want to help but aren't immediately sure
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Posted by Bobidou23
I'm thinking that we should add "the Warehouse", the new weekly series on DFTBA records
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Posted by stephenwade
I'm noticing there's quite a few double entries in the transcription schedule. How is that happening?
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2013-08-10
Posted by kitchensink108
Current development statusFYNF (and subsequently John) posted my message yesterday asking for volunteers,
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2013-08-09
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By the way, why was today's Sanditon video uploaded to a separate channel called "Pemberley
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2013-08-09
Posted by Bobidou23
Manual of Style, for future editors. I'm just starting; please add anything that comes to mind.Proper
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Site updates, 2013/8/5Added "create section header" button to transcript editorAdded "flag
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Posted by stephenwade
I would like to see an option (at least in transcripts) to switch to HTML instead of the new editor.
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Bobidou23 on 2013 Aug 11 19:05
Just to say, we've transcribed pretty much one-half of all videos on the site (29 more until we get over the mark) and just over two-thirds of all non-hankgames videos - great progress!
SilverWlf312 on 2013 Aug 11 06:56
Hi, joined from John's tumblr. Fell into Mental Floss videos for transcribing and really only proofreading, deleting unspoken words, adding ones that were spoken but not caught, and straightening it up a little. I'm up to #11 so far so yeah. :)
kitchensink108 on 2013 Aug 11 04:05
I created an intro guide, since a lot of people seem to want to help but aren't immediately sure how to use the site. It's a little rough around the edges, so you can post any suggestions here.
Bobidou23 on 2013 Aug 11 05:41
I really love it. It's perfect for the beginning transcribers; perhaps eventually more channel-specific items can be added - like "Keep mental_floss list videos as a numbered list," or how to notate Swoodilypooper games, or maybe eventually truth or fail.
Bobidou23 on 2013 Aug 10 07:32
I'm thinking that we should add "the Warehouse", the new weekly series on DFTBA records featuring Matthew Gaydos - it's on the DFTBArecords channel, although I don't think that channel's other videos should be on there.
By the way, should clips from various VidCons featuring John and Hank be on the wiki? If so, under miscellaneous or their own categories?
By the way, should clips from various VidCons featuring John and Hank be on the wiki? If so, under miscellaneous or their own categories?
stephenwade on 2013 Aug 09 02:50
I'm noticing there's quite a few double entries in the transcription schedule. How is that happening? There's enough of them that makes me think it might be something other than user error.
Also, how are we dealing with edit collisions (two people editing at the same time)? Does the website ask you if there is a collision or does it blindly overwrite whatever is currently there when you click submit? This may become an issue now that we have more people participating. I think the page should keep track of what revision number the page was on when you clicked edit and alert you if there has been a new revision since you clicked the edit button.
Also, as ilk pointed out, there's no way of knowing whether a video is being worked on. I think there should be a button that you can click on that will alert other editors that you are working on a certain video. I'm picturing that after you've triggered it, other editors will get a message when trying to edit it that says "By the way, [stephenwade] has said they are currently transcribing this video. Do you still want to edit it?"
Also, how are we dealing with edit collisions (two people editing at the same time)? Does the website ask you if there is a collision or does it blindly overwrite whatever is currently there when you click submit? This may become an issue now that we have more people participating. I think the page should keep track of what revision number the page was on when you clicked edit and alert you if there has been a new revision since you clicked the edit button.
Also, as ilk pointed out, there's no way of knowing whether a video is being worked on. I think there should be a button that you can click on that will alert other editors that you are working on a certain video. I'm picturing that after you've triggered it, other editors will get a message when trying to edit it that says "By the way, [stephenwade] has said they are currently transcribing this video. Do you still want to edit it?"
transcriber on 2013 Aug 09 04:21
I had the same questions actually. The alert is a really good ideae.
russianrupees on 2013 Aug 09 05:43
That is a really good idea! I also noticed that when signing up for a specific transcribing schedule, it showed my username twice. I saw it happen with another user too.
I'm glad to be able to finally help out some way in the Nerdfighter community! Before I just watched the videos...now I can help transcribe them so people can read and better understand what's going on in John and Hank's videos!
I'm glad to be able to finally help out some way in the Nerdfighter community! Before I just watched the videos...now I can help transcribe them so people can read and better understand what's going on in John and Hank's videos!
Bobidou23 on 2013 Aug 09 05:48
1. First, regarding the transcription schedule - I'm not quite sure what you mean is doubling - the schedules, or the people signed up for them. The second sign-up doubles the first name, but subsequent ones don't. And the schedules double as well - I think some of them were intended for past vids. I suggest another section of the schedule page somehow dealing with back logging, because phase I of Operation Transcripts seem to have worked?
2. I think I remember the note "Someone else may be editing this transcript" or something of that sort. If an editor chooses to continue despite this and then save it, then I'm not sure what happens.
2. I think I remember the note "Someone else may be editing this transcript" or something of that sort. If an editor chooses to continue despite this and then save it, then I'm not sure what happens.
kitchensink108 on 2013 Aug 09 14:22
The double entry thing should be fixed now.
There is indeed a notice that tries to warn you if someone's already editing. It uses the auto-backup feature (transcripts you're working on are saved to the session on the server, but not to the database), and unfortunately that feature broken when I converted to the new editor. I didn't realize that until after the flood of volunteers, though. I think that's fixed, though.
It doesn't prevent a user from saving, nor does it try to do any automatic merging. But it should warn the second user, and both users will have their edits in the transcript history, so work won't technically be lost although it may be incovenient to fix.
There is indeed a notice that tries to warn you if someone's already editing. It uses the auto-backup feature (transcripts you're working on are saved to the session on the server, but not to the database), and unfortunately that feature broken when I converted to the new editor. I didn't realize that until after the flood of volunteers, though. I think that's fixed, though.
It doesn't prevent a user from saving, nor does it try to do any automatic merging. But it should warn the second user, and both users will have their edits in the transcript history, so work won't technically be lost although it may be incovenient to fix.
stephenwade on 2013 Aug 10 00:02
What I'm picturing is something more than letting you know if a video is being edited. I don't know how many people do this, but I download the video off of YouTube so I can play it back at a much slower speed (Hank talks fast!). I'd like to be able to alert other editors that I am working on a ceratin video, even if I haven't typed anything in the edit box.
Bobidou23 on 2013 Aug 10 07:13
There are also quite a few schedule collisions I mentioned in my previous comments. There are, for example, schedules for series that are over, like FIFA 11, and a few that collide - like "All videos" for one channel and then a specific category for the same channel. I'm inclined to think that, in those cases, the "All" schedules are more for back logging than for current schedules. I love that they're all filling up, of course, but perhaps:
1. Not everyone should be able to create a schedule - the weekly schedule only changes so often - and
2. As mentioned, assigning past videos should be in a separate section, just to keep it clear. Each category for each channel should have a sign-up row (allowing multiple signups, of course), perhaps including how many videos from this category remain untranscribed - like "Miracle of Swindon Town (197, or whatever) Add Yourself", so that volunteers know how much work each category needs.
3. Proofreading/consistency check. Go through existing transcripts and see if they're actually complete and perfect. Perhaps this can be merged with the above.
And, side note, I also definitely think a Manual of Style needs to be in a clear position - a tab or on the front page.
1. Not everyone should be able to create a schedule - the weekly schedule only changes so often - and
2. As mentioned, assigning past videos should be in a separate section, just to keep it clear. Each category for each channel should have a sign-up row (allowing multiple signups, of course), perhaps including how many videos from this category remain untranscribed - like "Miracle of Swindon Town (197, or whatever) Add Yourself", so that volunteers know how much work each category needs.
3. Proofreading/consistency check. Go through existing transcripts and see if they're actually complete and perfect. Perhaps this can be merged with the above.
And, side note, I also definitely think a Manual of Style needs to be in a clear position - a tab or on the front page.
kitchensink108 on 2013 Aug 09 14:36
Current development status
FYNF (and subsequently John) posted my message yesterday asking for volunteers, which generated a lot of good interest and activity. Unfortunately it wasn't until we had a lot of new visitors to the site that I realized which features weren't working quite right. This made yesterday a little hectic.
Short-term to-do list:
FYNF (and subsequently John) posted my message yesterday asking for volunteers, which generated a lot of good interest and activity. Unfortunately it wasn't until we had a lot of new visitors to the site that I realized which features weren't working quite right. This made yesterday a little hectic.
Short-term to-do list:
- Get the basic editor and the translate page working with keyboard shortcuts again
- Mass-convert p tags to br tags so I can re-enable the section header button on transcripts
- Improve the site's usability for new users. Many users were unsure how to transcribe (formatting, etc.), what to transcribe (difficulty in finding the untranscribed lists), whether you needed to sign up or if they needed to "officially" volunteer, etc.
stephenwade on 2013 Aug 09 23:34
I think we should have a message on the home page welcoming people and linking to a wiki page that will have the Manual of Style as well as links to some model transcriptions.
Bobidou23 on 2013 Aug 08 23:36
By the way, why was today's Sanditon video uploaded to a separate channel called "Pemberley Digital", rather than added to lizziebennet?
Also, can there by a setting other than "Active" or "Inactive" for videos, which makes a video's transcript searchable but not on a channel page (namely, truth or fail anwer videos)? A few of those are unlisted, so must be manually added and thus brought to the "Admin" tab.
Also, can there by a setting other than "Active" or "Inactive" for videos, which makes a video's transcript searchable but not on a channel page (namely, truth or fail anwer videos)? A few of those are unlisted, so must be manually added and thus brought to the "Admin" tab.
stephenwade on 2013 Aug 09 01:23
Shouldn't all the Sanditon videos be on their own channel? They're on their own YouTube channel and aren't really related to LBD except for sharing a character.
kitchensink108 on 2013 Aug 09 14:16
It would make sense for them to be on their own channel, but I want to redesign the channel dropdown first. It wasn't intended to support quite this many channels.
I think an error occurred when the video was being added, so I had to add the video manually. If there's any difference in that episode compared to previous episodes, that's probably why.
I'll consider the idea of adding an indicator separate from active/inactive. If it doesn't complicate things too much I'll probably add it.
I think an error occurred when the video was being added, so I had to add the video manually. If there's any difference in that episode compared to previous episodes, that's probably why.
I'll consider the idea of adding an indicator separate from active/inactive. If it doesn't complicate things too much I'll probably add it.
Bobidou23 on 2013 Jul 29 04:01
Manual of Style, for future editors. I'm just starting; please add anything that comes to mind.
- Proper spelling, grammar, punctuation - please. And avoid informal language in the wiki, particularly in book summaries.
- Place <em> tags around TV shows, books, movies, etc.
- Timestamps for each line are discouraged.
- However, for Crash Course videos, please include timestamps with each sub-header. Mystery Document, Thought Bubble, and credits should always be kept separate; Hank's table of contents should only be a suggestion.
- Timestamps are not necessary for other channels.
- When a specific video is referenced (by quote or clip), please link to it with the <a> - the wiki page's URL, unless a page does not exist, in which case YT.
- When linking to websites in wiki entries, please use the link button instead of pasting the URL.
- A few spelling clarifications - doobilydoo, skoodilypooping, Leeroy Williamson.
- For Swoodilypooper games, consult Game #4 for how to notate goals, the final score, etc.
kitchensink108 on 2013 Jul 30 02:24
- I want an indicator for unknown words. Something simple like [?] that denotes when the transcriber can't make out a word, doesn't know its spelling, or any other situations that would hold someone up from finishing a transcript. Standardizing this would be really nice so then we could have a page that displays all of these instances, making it easier to identify which transcripts need a little community involvement to complete. Does anyone have suggestions other than [?] on how to handle this?
- We should have something in the style manual for paragraphs. Walls of text are hard to read, and probably half my edits of existing transcripts has just been breaking walls of text into readable chunks.
- Should Swoodilypooper goals/score/etc. be included in the transcript or the Notes tab? It's more appropriate to be separated, I think, but the Notes tab may as well be invisible (including to me). The link is bolded if there's text there, but that still doesn't seem enough to make it apparent that the video has notes.
stephenwade on 2013 Jul 31 15:24
- We should have a button on the formatting bar that inserts our chosen tag, and the style manual should tell people to use that button. That way we can more reliably make sure that all such problems are tagged (and can be searched for) consistently.
I've been using (sp?) for words I don't know how to spell (though there's not many of those because Google's spell correction is pretty good) and [unintelligible] for words I can't make out. - Definitely something that says "At least try to split it into paragraphs."
- I say Swoodilypooper scores should be inserted into the transcript. It would also be nice to see what the score is when he interrupts his sentence to scream at the goal.
I also think the Notes tab should be removed. I've actually never noticed it unless I was looking for it. Is it actually being used anywhere for something that couldn't go in the transcript? If we decide to get rid of it, we could hide the notes tab when it's not in use, so it doesn't get used again, and slowly migrate away anything that still does use it.
stephenwade on 2013 Aug 09 03:04
This should definitely be put somewhere other than the discussion page so we can link new editors to it. (And also updated for the new graphical editor)
kitchensink108 on 2013 Aug 06 03:35
Site updates, 2013/8/5
- Added "create section header" button to transcript editor
- Added "flag point" button to transcript editor
- Removed video notes (still have the data of what few notes there were, that's not lost)
- Added indicator for shortcut status when transcribing
- Changed seek shortcuts from left/right arrow to left/right bracket [ ]
- Updated "transcription tips"
I think that's it. The new buttons may cause the editor to load slower. Let me know if you come across any new issues.
stephenwade on 2013 Jul 31 15:38
I would like to see an option (at least in transcripts) to switch to HTML instead of the new editor. I can't type fast enough to keep up with transcribing on the website, so I play the video and write the transcript with separate programs. I would prefer to be able to make <b>s and <sub>s in the transcript rather than applying each one after pasting it into the editor.
Also, I seem to have lost my Admin tab at the top. Just wondering if that was intentional.
kitchensink108 on 2013 Jul 31 18:03
I added a button to remove the fancy editor. It'll take you back to the old editor, though keyboard shortcuts won't work.
There was an issue with the login process, so if you're still not seeing your admin tab, try logging out and logging back in.
Bobidou23 on 2013 Aug 03 16:34
Can there be a button to revert back to the fancy one? Maybe some try out both and prefer that one.
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