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When you get two doses of a vaccine, you might assume that it doesn't matter which arm gets the shots. But some evidence suggests that it does.
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https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/multiple-vaccines-immunity.html
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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(23)00308-0/fulltext#%20
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/multiple-vaccines-immunity.html
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So, when you’re getting a vaccination, which arm do you get your shots in?
Are you always a non-dominant kind of person just in case it puts that arm out of commission? Or do you leave it up to the dealer’s choice and take the shot in whichever arm your healthcare provider sidles up to?
Every time you get a shot, like the vaccines for the flu or COVID, you get to choose which arm it goes into. And maybe you’re thinking, “I honestly don’t know what arm I get shots in because it can’t matter at all that much. I mean, it’s all going to the same place anyway, right?” But it turns out that might be wrong.
A study published in 2023 found that people who got their COVID doses in the same arm were more protected against the pandemic-maker than people who switched between the left and right arms. So when getting multiple shots to fight the same bad guy, there might be benefits to keeping things consistent. But when you’re getting multiple shots for different vaccinations, a left jab and a right jab might knock them out just as well.
So I’m here today to tell you everything you never wondered about which arm you get vaccinated in. [♪ INTRO] Right off the bat, let’s talk about how few studies there are on this topic. Generally, people who get vaccinated do better at fighting off that nasty pathogen than people who don’t get vaccinated. So usually researchers leave it at that.
As long as you’re vaccinated, they don’t really care whether it happened on your left or right side. And they’re absolutely right. The most important thing you can do is get the vaccine in the first place.
But for some killers like COVID, experts say pretty much everyone in the world should get multiple doses of protection. So one group of researchers took it upon themselves to peel back the layers of that left-is-just-as-good-as-right assumption. And as they say, “Ogres are like onions, or vaccines.” Layers.
On the outermost layer, just get the vaccine. Get it in your left arm, get it in your right arm, get it in a car, get it at the pharmacy. Everyone in this 2023 study got several doses of the COVID vaccine, and their bodies made antibodies to protect them against the SARS-CoV-2 pathogen.
But when these scientists went deeper to the next layer of vaccination effectiveness, they found that people who got each dose in the same arm had more protection against COVID than participants who got the first dose in one arm and the second dose in the other. Let’s walk through the numbers. Both people who got their shots in one arm and people who got it in two made more of the immune cell called CD8 T-cells during the two weeks after their vaccination.
CD8 Ts kill cells that have been infected by an intruder. So you’re going to want a lot of those if something nasty like COVID is making the rounds. But people who split their doses between their arms didn’t make as many COVID-specific CD8 T-cells as people who got both doses in the same arm.
To the point where only 43% of both arm participants had detectable levels of CD8 T-cells, as compared to 67.2% of the single arm participants. In a more subtle but important comparison, antibodies neutralized the bad guys 65% of the time in participants who got shots in both arms and 69% of the time in participants who stuck to one side. So getting multiple doses of the COVID vaccine in the same arm helped people make more of their body’s protective cells and use them more effectively.
The authors of this study think that the difference between one arm and two arms comes from the lymph nodes. See, your immune cells, like those CD8 T-cells, distribute to the parts of your body that need them the most. They’re spewed out by the lymph node closest to the pathogen.
That’s why the area on your neck and behind your ears feels swollen when you get a cold. Those lymph nodes by your nose, mouth, and throat, where you’re fighting off the virus, are filled with immune cells. It’s also one reason you usually get shots in the shoulder.
It’s really close to the lymph node in your armpit. So when you get a vaccination in your left shoulder, the lymph node in your left armpit starts sending out immune response cells to address the situation. That lymph node keeps up its anti-COVID response for at least 12 weeks.
Which is why these scientists think that getting a second dose of the same vaccine near the same lymph node might give your immune system a head start and make it more likely to mount a stronger attack against the COVID invader. Now, this study was only conducted with COVID vaccinations. And like I said before, there aren’t many other similar studies out there.
But if these scientists are right about why the results came out the way they did, then we’re talking about basic principles of the immune system that should apply to other multi-dose vaccines, like measles, as well. And speaking of the measles vaccine, you usually get that at the same time as a lot of other vaccines. But the idea behind multiple shots in the same arm may or may not hold up when we’re talking about different vaccinations.
The same kind of thorough study, measuring different immune cells, just hasn’t been conducted. But we do have some research on people getting multiple shots of different vaccinations at once. There was a 2015 study that seems to suggest there isn’t much difference in getting shots in one or two limbs for infants, but it depends on what vaccines they’re getting.
Like, tetanus might be a little less flexible in terms of where the shot goes than pneumococcal vaccines. And the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say that young people, who get a bunch of shots at once, usually get them in multiple limbs. So it sounds like we need a bit more research before we can make any solid conclusions here.
And in the meantime, most of us are probably choosing where to get our shots based on how they make us feel. So let’s take a look at the data on that: In the COVID study that started this video, more people said they had a fever after the second dose on the same side, while more people said they had swollen lymph nodes after the second dose on the other side. But they were generally similar across the board… or I guess across the body.
And a study on pre-teens getting both Meningococcal C and Hepatitis B vaccines found that there was slightly more redness, tenderness, and drowsiness in the two arm group. But that might have been because, in this study, the people who got the vaccines in a single arm always got them in their non-dominant arm. So they might not have been using the arm and noticing the pain as much.
Ultimately, this study also concluded that getting both injections in the same arm is a good option. But there’s no real wrong choice. Either way, getting a second dose of a multi-dose shot significantly boosts immunity.
If you put it by the same lymph node both times, you’re probably increasing your chance of protection. And, if you’re like me, about to head into cold and flu season, it’s not too late to protect yourself and the people around you. … whether you’re fighting the viruses with one arm or two. This SciShow video is supported by you!
Thank you for watching, commenting, and sharing SciShow videos. That kind of support doesn’t cost anything and it helps more people see this stuff. But you also don’t have to be a billionaire like Taylor Swift to become a patron and join the SciShow community on Discord.
That’s on offer for just $2 per month at Patreon.com/SciShow. But however you choose to support this channel, we appreciate it. [♪ OUTRO]
Are you always a non-dominant kind of person just in case it puts that arm out of commission? Or do you leave it up to the dealer’s choice and take the shot in whichever arm your healthcare provider sidles up to?
Every time you get a shot, like the vaccines for the flu or COVID, you get to choose which arm it goes into. And maybe you’re thinking, “I honestly don’t know what arm I get shots in because it can’t matter at all that much. I mean, it’s all going to the same place anyway, right?” But it turns out that might be wrong.
A study published in 2023 found that people who got their COVID doses in the same arm were more protected against the pandemic-maker than people who switched between the left and right arms. So when getting multiple shots to fight the same bad guy, there might be benefits to keeping things consistent. But when you’re getting multiple shots for different vaccinations, a left jab and a right jab might knock them out just as well.
So I’m here today to tell you everything you never wondered about which arm you get vaccinated in. [♪ INTRO] Right off the bat, let’s talk about how few studies there are on this topic. Generally, people who get vaccinated do better at fighting off that nasty pathogen than people who don’t get vaccinated. So usually researchers leave it at that.
As long as you’re vaccinated, they don’t really care whether it happened on your left or right side. And they’re absolutely right. The most important thing you can do is get the vaccine in the first place.
But for some killers like COVID, experts say pretty much everyone in the world should get multiple doses of protection. So one group of researchers took it upon themselves to peel back the layers of that left-is-just-as-good-as-right assumption. And as they say, “Ogres are like onions, or vaccines.” Layers.
On the outermost layer, just get the vaccine. Get it in your left arm, get it in your right arm, get it in a car, get it at the pharmacy. Everyone in this 2023 study got several doses of the COVID vaccine, and their bodies made antibodies to protect them against the SARS-CoV-2 pathogen.
But when these scientists went deeper to the next layer of vaccination effectiveness, they found that people who got each dose in the same arm had more protection against COVID than participants who got the first dose in one arm and the second dose in the other. Let’s walk through the numbers. Both people who got their shots in one arm and people who got it in two made more of the immune cell called CD8 T-cells during the two weeks after their vaccination.
CD8 Ts kill cells that have been infected by an intruder. So you’re going to want a lot of those if something nasty like COVID is making the rounds. But people who split their doses between their arms didn’t make as many COVID-specific CD8 T-cells as people who got both doses in the same arm.
To the point where only 43% of both arm participants had detectable levels of CD8 T-cells, as compared to 67.2% of the single arm participants. In a more subtle but important comparison, antibodies neutralized the bad guys 65% of the time in participants who got shots in both arms and 69% of the time in participants who stuck to one side. So getting multiple doses of the COVID vaccine in the same arm helped people make more of their body’s protective cells and use them more effectively.
The authors of this study think that the difference between one arm and two arms comes from the lymph nodes. See, your immune cells, like those CD8 T-cells, distribute to the parts of your body that need them the most. They’re spewed out by the lymph node closest to the pathogen.
That’s why the area on your neck and behind your ears feels swollen when you get a cold. Those lymph nodes by your nose, mouth, and throat, where you’re fighting off the virus, are filled with immune cells. It’s also one reason you usually get shots in the shoulder.
It’s really close to the lymph node in your armpit. So when you get a vaccination in your left shoulder, the lymph node in your left armpit starts sending out immune response cells to address the situation. That lymph node keeps up its anti-COVID response for at least 12 weeks.
Which is why these scientists think that getting a second dose of the same vaccine near the same lymph node might give your immune system a head start and make it more likely to mount a stronger attack against the COVID invader. Now, this study was only conducted with COVID vaccinations. And like I said before, there aren’t many other similar studies out there.
But if these scientists are right about why the results came out the way they did, then we’re talking about basic principles of the immune system that should apply to other multi-dose vaccines, like measles, as well. And speaking of the measles vaccine, you usually get that at the same time as a lot of other vaccines. But the idea behind multiple shots in the same arm may or may not hold up when we’re talking about different vaccinations.
The same kind of thorough study, measuring different immune cells, just hasn’t been conducted. But we do have some research on people getting multiple shots of different vaccinations at once. There was a 2015 study that seems to suggest there isn’t much difference in getting shots in one or two limbs for infants, but it depends on what vaccines they’re getting.
Like, tetanus might be a little less flexible in terms of where the shot goes than pneumococcal vaccines. And the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say that young people, who get a bunch of shots at once, usually get them in multiple limbs. So it sounds like we need a bit more research before we can make any solid conclusions here.
And in the meantime, most of us are probably choosing where to get our shots based on how they make us feel. So let’s take a look at the data on that: In the COVID study that started this video, more people said they had a fever after the second dose on the same side, while more people said they had swollen lymph nodes after the second dose on the other side. But they were generally similar across the board… or I guess across the body.
And a study on pre-teens getting both Meningococcal C and Hepatitis B vaccines found that there was slightly more redness, tenderness, and drowsiness in the two arm group. But that might have been because, in this study, the people who got the vaccines in a single arm always got them in their non-dominant arm. So they might not have been using the arm and noticing the pain as much.
Ultimately, this study also concluded that getting both injections in the same arm is a good option. But there’s no real wrong choice. Either way, getting a second dose of a multi-dose shot significantly boosts immunity.
If you put it by the same lymph node both times, you’re probably increasing your chance of protection. And, if you’re like me, about to head into cold and flu season, it’s not too late to protect yourself and the people around you. … whether you’re fighting the viruses with one arm or two. This SciShow video is supported by you!
Thank you for watching, commenting, and sharing SciShow videos. That kind of support doesn’t cost anything and it helps more people see this stuff. But you also don’t have to be a billionaire like Taylor Swift to become a patron and join the SciShow community on Discord.
That’s on offer for just $2 per month at Patreon.com/SciShow. But however you choose to support this channel, we appreciate it. [♪ OUTRO]