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Amphibole asbestos has been (mostly) illegal in the United States since 1989. So why is the EPA just banning chrysotile asbestos in the year 2024? And is chrysotile really safer?
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Amphibole asbestos has been (mostly) illegal in the United States since 1989. So why is the EPA just banning chrysotile asbestos in the year 2024? And is chrysotile really safer?
CORRECTION - there were some mistakes in the credits for this episode, so here are those corrected credits:
Hosted by: Savannah Geary (they/them)
Writer: Keren Turton
Script Editor: Alex Billow
Fact Checker: Kelly Hills
Script Supervisor: Bill Mead
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Support SciShow by becoming a patron on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/scishow
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Huge thanks go to the following Patreon supporters for helping us keep SciShow free for everyone forever: Adam Brainard, Alex Hackman, Ash, Benjamin Carleski, Bryan Cloer, charles george, Chris Mackey, Chris Peters, Christoph Schwanke, Christopher R Boucher, DrakoEsper, Eric Jensen, Friso, Garrett Galloway, Harrison Mills, J. Copen, Jaap Westera, Jason A Saslow, Jeffrey Mckishen, Jeremy Mattern, Kenny Wilson, Kevin Bealer, Kevin Knupp, Lyndsay Brown, Matt Curls, Michelle Dove, Piya Shedden, Rizwan Kassim, Sam Lutfi
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This episode of SciShow is supported by EnergySage.
The nation’s most trusted online solar marketplace. You can head to EnergySage.com to start exploring rooftop or community solar options in your area.
Have you or a loved one been diagnosed with mesothelioma? Industrial exposure to asbestos may have put you at risk of this rare cancer. If you believe you’re entitled to financial compensation, call 1-800-SUE-THE-PANTS-OFF-EM for extremely unbiased legal advice.
So, for legal reasons, I am not a lawyer and this is a joke. I can’t help you sue anybody if you have mesothelioma, but I can’t be the only one who remembers those commercials, right? I can tell you some good news, though.
We’re making big progress towards making asbestos really, for real illegal in the United States. Because yes, one major type of it was still allowed. The reasons it was still around were… not good, but they were reasons.
Let me explain. [♪ INTRO] As of March 2024, the US Environmental Protection Agency is banning the use and import of a type of asbestos called chrysotile, and phasing out its use in industrial facilities. Congress passed the legislation in 2016, and it’s finally being implemented. Chrysotile is already illegal in the EU and more than 50 other countries.
New uses and imports of other types of asbestos have been generally banned in the US since 1989. Though there are some frustrating loopholes. Even so, how did this other type sneak under the radar?
To explain, let’s take a look at asbestos itself. Asbestos is strong and fire-retardant, so back in the day it was used in loads of products, including water supply lines, housing insulation and brake pads. In its heyday in the 70s there were over a hundred million tonnes of it mined every year in the US.
Asbestos is a naturally-occurring fibrous mineral. But just because it’s natural doesn’t mean it’s good for you. It’s made mostly of silicon, but the other elements that make it up vary, giving us a variety of different types of asbestos.
Amphibole asbestos includes crocidolite and amosite. They have brittle, needle-like fibers, and were used for tiling and various types of insulation, including in homes. They’re the type of asbestos that was already banned.
Well, again, loopholes, but theoretically banned. Chrysotile asbestos, which has curly fibers, was thought to be less dangerous than its cousins in the amphibole family. Chrysotile is the most widespread asbestos in use today.
It’s used for brake pads, asphalt, and plastics among other things. The problem is, both types of asbestos fibers get into your lungs and can’t be cleared out by the body. They tend to collect in the alveoli, the tiny sacs in your lungs where air gets exchanged with the blood.
This is as bad as it sounds. Asbestos fibers are abrasive and can lead to lung damage and scarring. Also, immune cells in the lung are often smaller than the fibers, so they can’t help break them down, and that makes the immune system panic, leading to more damage.
All this makes it difficult to breathe, a condition called asbestosis. And asbestosis is just the start. Asbestos also increases the risk of lung cancer.
At the cellular level, asbestos fibers increase levels of certain cancer-promoting proteins, among other things. One study showed that asbestos exposure led to a 5-fold increase in lung cancer. But, as you already know if you’ve seen those corny legal ads on TV, asbestos is especially infamous for its association with mesothelioma.
Mesothelioma without asbestos exposure is pretty rare. Mesothelioma is a cancer that affects the cells lining the organs’ exterior, in this case the lungs. Yup, the asbestos fibers are able to travel all the way to the outer lining of the lung and mess things up there too.
So, if amphibole asbestos has been banned, but we’re only just getting around to chrysotile… is it less cancer-y? Well… industrial workers who work with chrysotile still have higher rates of lung cancer and mesothelioma. Unfortunately, chrysotile is commercially important, so that means there are motivated interests trying to show it’s less harmful than amphibole asbestos.
There have been people who have fought really hard to keep chrysotile legal. To explain the cancer rates without incriminating chrysotile, something called the “amphibole hypothesis” came into being. Basically, it hinges on two premises.
One, that chrysotile is safer than amphibole. In lab and real-world studies, lung tissue accumulates more amphibole than chrysotile, relative to the amount of exposure. This apparent lack of persistence in the body has been touted as evidence that chrysotile is safer.
And two, that all chrysotile is contaminated with a little bit of amphibole, which is to blame for any increased risk in cancer. Does chrysotile deserve its free pass? Well, there seems to be a grain of truth here, which is that chrysotile can be cleared by the lungs more quickly than amphibole fibers.
Unfortunately, these chrysotile fibers can still do damage before they get moved along. And chrysotile on its own has been shown to cause mesotheliomas and lung cancer. So there’s no way to make chrysotile asbestos safe for the people who work with it, and it isn’t worth trading their safety to have it as a commercial product.
However… we do owe asbestos a little bit of thanks. It’s used in the production of chlorine, which we use to disinfect drinking water. And I don’t mean like fancy bottled water.
If you get up and turn on your sink right now, that water’s probably safe because of chlorine. Chlorine is produced by electrolysis. You basically run electricity through salt water, and out pops chlorine and caustic soda, aka sodium hydroxide.
When zapping the salt water, the positive and negative electrodes are separated by a membrane or diaphragm which is permeable only to specific molecules. That diaphragm has to be durable and resistant to the harsh chemicals involved in chlorine production. Asbestos is one good material for that diaphragm, but it’s not the only option.
Some plants use membranes made of fluoropolymers such as Teflon. This option comes with its own set of challenges, since fluoropolymers could potentially release polyfluorinated substances, aka PFAS, into the environment. What did they use in the days before fluoropolymers and asbestos, I hear you ask?
Great question. Mercury. It was mercury.
Having chlorine is kind of essential to the drinking water supply, so are fluoropolymers really the least horrible out of a lot of horrible options? For now yes, but there’s hope! A paper published in 2018 presented a way to produce chlorine without any diaphragm at all.
It’s still in the R&D phase, but hopefully will mean that one day this technology can be membrane-free. Regardless, we definitely don’t need asbestos specifically. 8 chlorine facilities in the US that still use asbestos diaphragms will be phasing them out over the next decade or so. The majority of facilities have already swapped over, so the drinking water supply shouldn’t be in any danger.
An estimated 255,000 people die of asbestos-related disease each year, nearly 40,000 of them in the US. Banning asbestos really is life or death. We finally have both the technology and the political will to get rid of the stuff.
But my money’s on the cheesy commercials sticking around a while longer. Thanks to EnergySage for supporting this SciShow video! EnergySage is all about helping you create a cleaner, more sustainable, more resilient home.
EnergySage helps people go solar with confidence. By installing solar panels, your home can help avoid three to four tons of carbon emissions each year. It’s easier than planting over 100 trees annually.
And it’ll cut your electric bills. Over 1 million people have used EnergySage to shop for solar, heat pumps, battery storage, and more. EnergySage’s simple marketplace and free, expert Energy Advisors make it easy to confidently shop for the right clean energy solutions for your home and save 20% compared to going it alone.
They also have educational resources about other clean energy options that might be right for you, like participating in a community solar program. You can join the movement towards a planet powered by clean, affordable, and reliable energy for all at EnergySage.com. Thanks for watching! [♪ OUTRO]
The nation’s most trusted online solar marketplace. You can head to EnergySage.com to start exploring rooftop or community solar options in your area.
Have you or a loved one been diagnosed with mesothelioma? Industrial exposure to asbestos may have put you at risk of this rare cancer. If you believe you’re entitled to financial compensation, call 1-800-SUE-THE-PANTS-OFF-EM for extremely unbiased legal advice.
So, for legal reasons, I am not a lawyer and this is a joke. I can’t help you sue anybody if you have mesothelioma, but I can’t be the only one who remembers those commercials, right? I can tell you some good news, though.
We’re making big progress towards making asbestos really, for real illegal in the United States. Because yes, one major type of it was still allowed. The reasons it was still around were… not good, but they were reasons.
Let me explain. [♪ INTRO] As of March 2024, the US Environmental Protection Agency is banning the use and import of a type of asbestos called chrysotile, and phasing out its use in industrial facilities. Congress passed the legislation in 2016, and it’s finally being implemented. Chrysotile is already illegal in the EU and more than 50 other countries.
New uses and imports of other types of asbestos have been generally banned in the US since 1989. Though there are some frustrating loopholes. Even so, how did this other type sneak under the radar?
To explain, let’s take a look at asbestos itself. Asbestos is strong and fire-retardant, so back in the day it was used in loads of products, including water supply lines, housing insulation and brake pads. In its heyday in the 70s there were over a hundred million tonnes of it mined every year in the US.
Asbestos is a naturally-occurring fibrous mineral. But just because it’s natural doesn’t mean it’s good for you. It’s made mostly of silicon, but the other elements that make it up vary, giving us a variety of different types of asbestos.
Amphibole asbestos includes crocidolite and amosite. They have brittle, needle-like fibers, and were used for tiling and various types of insulation, including in homes. They’re the type of asbestos that was already banned.
Well, again, loopholes, but theoretically banned. Chrysotile asbestos, which has curly fibers, was thought to be less dangerous than its cousins in the amphibole family. Chrysotile is the most widespread asbestos in use today.
It’s used for brake pads, asphalt, and plastics among other things. The problem is, both types of asbestos fibers get into your lungs and can’t be cleared out by the body. They tend to collect in the alveoli, the tiny sacs in your lungs where air gets exchanged with the blood.
This is as bad as it sounds. Asbestos fibers are abrasive and can lead to lung damage and scarring. Also, immune cells in the lung are often smaller than the fibers, so they can’t help break them down, and that makes the immune system panic, leading to more damage.
All this makes it difficult to breathe, a condition called asbestosis. And asbestosis is just the start. Asbestos also increases the risk of lung cancer.
At the cellular level, asbestos fibers increase levels of certain cancer-promoting proteins, among other things. One study showed that asbestos exposure led to a 5-fold increase in lung cancer. But, as you already know if you’ve seen those corny legal ads on TV, asbestos is especially infamous for its association with mesothelioma.
Mesothelioma without asbestos exposure is pretty rare. Mesothelioma is a cancer that affects the cells lining the organs’ exterior, in this case the lungs. Yup, the asbestos fibers are able to travel all the way to the outer lining of the lung and mess things up there too.
So, if amphibole asbestos has been banned, but we’re only just getting around to chrysotile… is it less cancer-y? Well… industrial workers who work with chrysotile still have higher rates of lung cancer and mesothelioma. Unfortunately, chrysotile is commercially important, so that means there are motivated interests trying to show it’s less harmful than amphibole asbestos.
There have been people who have fought really hard to keep chrysotile legal. To explain the cancer rates without incriminating chrysotile, something called the “amphibole hypothesis” came into being. Basically, it hinges on two premises.
One, that chrysotile is safer than amphibole. In lab and real-world studies, lung tissue accumulates more amphibole than chrysotile, relative to the amount of exposure. This apparent lack of persistence in the body has been touted as evidence that chrysotile is safer.
And two, that all chrysotile is contaminated with a little bit of amphibole, which is to blame for any increased risk in cancer. Does chrysotile deserve its free pass? Well, there seems to be a grain of truth here, which is that chrysotile can be cleared by the lungs more quickly than amphibole fibers.
Unfortunately, these chrysotile fibers can still do damage before they get moved along. And chrysotile on its own has been shown to cause mesotheliomas and lung cancer. So there’s no way to make chrysotile asbestos safe for the people who work with it, and it isn’t worth trading their safety to have it as a commercial product.
However… we do owe asbestos a little bit of thanks. It’s used in the production of chlorine, which we use to disinfect drinking water. And I don’t mean like fancy bottled water.
If you get up and turn on your sink right now, that water’s probably safe because of chlorine. Chlorine is produced by electrolysis. You basically run electricity through salt water, and out pops chlorine and caustic soda, aka sodium hydroxide.
When zapping the salt water, the positive and negative electrodes are separated by a membrane or diaphragm which is permeable only to specific molecules. That diaphragm has to be durable and resistant to the harsh chemicals involved in chlorine production. Asbestos is one good material for that diaphragm, but it’s not the only option.
Some plants use membranes made of fluoropolymers such as Teflon. This option comes with its own set of challenges, since fluoropolymers could potentially release polyfluorinated substances, aka PFAS, into the environment. What did they use in the days before fluoropolymers and asbestos, I hear you ask?
Great question. Mercury. It was mercury.
Having chlorine is kind of essential to the drinking water supply, so are fluoropolymers really the least horrible out of a lot of horrible options? For now yes, but there’s hope! A paper published in 2018 presented a way to produce chlorine without any diaphragm at all.
It’s still in the R&D phase, but hopefully will mean that one day this technology can be membrane-free. Regardless, we definitely don’t need asbestos specifically. 8 chlorine facilities in the US that still use asbestos diaphragms will be phasing them out over the next decade or so. The majority of facilities have already swapped over, so the drinking water supply shouldn’t be in any danger.
An estimated 255,000 people die of asbestos-related disease each year, nearly 40,000 of them in the US. Banning asbestos really is life or death. We finally have both the technology and the political will to get rid of the stuff.
But my money’s on the cheesy commercials sticking around a while longer. Thanks to EnergySage for supporting this SciShow video! EnergySage is all about helping you create a cleaner, more sustainable, more resilient home.
EnergySage helps people go solar with confidence. By installing solar panels, your home can help avoid three to four tons of carbon emissions each year. It’s easier than planting over 100 trees annually.
And it’ll cut your electric bills. Over 1 million people have used EnergySage to shop for solar, heat pumps, battery storage, and more. EnergySage’s simple marketplace and free, expert Energy Advisors make it easy to confidently shop for the right clean energy solutions for your home and save 20% compared to going it alone.
They also have educational resources about other clean energy options that might be right for you, like participating in a community solar program. You can join the movement towards a planet powered by clean, affordable, and reliable energy for all at EnergySage.com. Thanks for watching! [♪ OUTRO]