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Are you familiar with the group of stars known as the Pleiades? Maybe you’ve heard them referred to as the Seven Sisters.
They’re bright and easy to spot, and as such, they’re well known to people all over the world. Cultures from the ancient Greeks to the Aboriginal Australians tell stories about them. Often a story of seven women.
Quick problem, though. Have a quick peek at the star cluster. In fact, if it’s a clear night where you are, pause the video and pop outside – I’ll wait.
How many stars do you see? …Six, huh? So how did so many people around the world make up a seventh? There may be an answer to that question.
An answer that, with a little astrophysics, could lead us to one of the oldest stories humans have ever told. [♪ INTRO] The story of the Pleiades as seven women is remarkably widespread around the world. In Greek mythology, the seven stars of the Pleiades are the seven daughters of the Titan Atlas, who was chased by the hunter Orion. The god Zeus scooped up the seven sisters and placed them in the sky as stars, out of the reach of the nefarious Orion.
Hindu epics call them seven wives of wise men, some Aboriginal Australian cultures call them the seven water girls, and legends from the Western Mono of North America call them seven wives who were thrown out of their homes for eating too many onions. Which is harsh, but… Onion breath. I get it.
The stories aren’t ubiquitous. In Japan, for example, the cluster is referred to as having six stars. You can even see this in the logo of Japanese car maker Subaru, which might as well be the unofficial state car here in Montana.
Still, with so many cultures with such similar stories about such a specific, incorrect number of stars, one starts to wonder: is this a coincidence, or some remarkable common thread throughout humanity? Aboriginal Australians and ancient Greeks, for example, had not been in contact since their ancestors left Africa a minimum of sixty thousand years ago. Yet they tell similar stories.
Does that mean they brought the same story out of Africa with them? Could the story of the seven sisters be tens of thousands of years old? That would make it one of the oldest stories we know about.
To find out, let’s look at the stars themselves. With modern astronomy, we now know the Pleiades are part of an open star cluster, that is, a grouping of stars all born around the same time from the same huge dust cloud. With a telescope, we can see that the Pleiades actually have over a thousand stars.
But our ancestors in ancient times didn’t have telescopes, so let’s focus on what we can see with our own eyes. Unless you’ve got spectacular eyesight, you can probably see six stars. And even if you can see more than six, it’s probably way more than seven!
Some of the Pleiades myths actually acknowledge this mystery, with an explanation of how the seventh sister went missing. The Greeks, for example, said that one of the divine sisters went into hiding for the shame of marrying a mortal man. And there are more cultures than just the Greeks that acknowledge the missing seventh sister.
The Nez Perce, a nation of Indigenous people from the region around Idaho and Oregon, told that one sister fell in love with a mortal man. When he died and she was grieving, she felt her sisters were ashamed, so she hid herself behind a veil, leaving only six sisters visible in the sky. I mean, basically the same story!
This brings us back to the beginning: what the heck is going on with that missing seventh star? Why do all these people across time and space on Earth agree there’s a seventh star, where did it go, and when did it disappear? One group of researchers thinks they may have figured it out.
According to their calculations, if you track the motions of the stars, you can see that a seventh bright star may have actually been visible 100,000 years ago — we’ll come back to that time frame in a minute. Stars move across the night sky in a couple of ways. They appear to us to be moving because Earth is spinning around its axis and moving in its orbit around the Sun.
At the same time, stars are actually moving through space. Astronomers record how much stars really move on the night sky, not including the motion that we only see because of the spinny little vantage point on our homeworld. This is known as a star’s proper motion, usually measured in tiny fractions of a degree per year.
The researchers thinking about the Pleiades used these measured proper motions to predict where the stars of the Pleiades may have been hundreds of thousands of years ago. With this method, the scientists found that two of the Pleiades — Atlas and Pleione — might have been far enough apart that our eyes could see them as two separate stars back in the day. They claim that now we only see six because they’re too close together for our eyes to tell them apart without help from binoculars or a telescope.
One small problem. This finding was presented in a chapter in a book, where you’re not required to show your work in as much detail as you would be in a paper in a journal. So we had to check it ourselves.
Yes, really. We asked an astrophysicist to check this and she did the math. Here it is.
What this shows is that yes, indeed, Atlas and Pleione used to be farther apart. Maybe far enough to see them as two separate objects with the naked eye. It’s an amazing idea, but there are a few issues that we’ll get to after this quick break.
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We have the claim from these authors that our ancestors would have been able to see seven stars around 100,000 years ago. That supports the idea that stories about the Pleiades have been around since ancient humans were all bopping around together in Africa. It’s a really cool idea, but we have to note a couple of possible snags in the narrative these researchers present.
The stars in the Pleiades are quite young, and young stars surrounded by dust can sometimes be variable in their brightness. The “Atlas and Pleione on the move” idea doesn’t account for the fact that maybe one of these could have been way brighter or fainter in the past. And when we talk about hundred thousand year timescales there’s a lot more to consider with how stars move that we didn’t really talk about.
For example, Earth’s orbit is even more complicated than the spin around our axis and our orbit around the Sun. The circularity of Earth’s orbit and the tilt and wobble of Earth’s axis are subject to change over tens of thousands of years. All of these things could contribute to Atlas and Pleione appearing in slightly different places than our simple calculation from proper motion predicts.
Plus, even a tiny margin of error could matter a lot here — as far as humans leaving Africa compared to the time scales of the universe. And, quick note from when we were fact checking this script. The authors of the piece say that the ancestors of the Aboriginal Australians left Africa a hundred thousand years ago, but we aren’t completely sure where they got that number.
The scholarly consensus seems to be that although some humans left Africa much earlier, the bulk of the migration was only around 60,000 years ago. It still works if you imagine that the stars were visible a hundred thousand years ago and people were still telling that story by the time the migration happened, but still, just pointing that out. The independent scholar Jon White also notes that some versions of the stories of the seven sisters are actually more different from each other than they seem at first glance.
Like, the Aboriginal Australian stories focus a lot more on water and ritual than the Greek myth. Plus, there are a whole bunch of other Pleiades stories we haven’t even mentioned! Maōri mythology called them Matariki, and they represented the eyes of a god lost in battle.
Hawaiian mo’olelo tales say that a greedy nobleman hoarded food and stored it in the sky, out of reach, until a little mouse came along and gnawed the ropes of the net until the food fell back down to the people on the islands. Those are only two examples, and there are plenty more – and I’d say they’re both pretty different from seven sisters! So, after considering all this, did this story of the Pleiades travel out of Africa with us?
Did people notice a star disappearing over time, and adjust the story to it? It’s really hard to be sure, but this is a neat and at least somewhat scientifically backed idea. Plus, it’s pretty incredible to think about humans telling stories about stars for so many thousands and thousands of years that a star was able to move through the sky and disappear.
What an amazing way to preserve the history of the sky itself – and connect us all at the same time. [♪ OUTRO]
Are you familiar with the group of stars known as the Pleiades? Maybe you’ve heard them referred to as the Seven Sisters.
They’re bright and easy to spot, and as such, they’re well known to people all over the world. Cultures from the ancient Greeks to the Aboriginal Australians tell stories about them. Often a story of seven women.
Quick problem, though. Have a quick peek at the star cluster. In fact, if it’s a clear night where you are, pause the video and pop outside – I’ll wait.
How many stars do you see? …Six, huh? So how did so many people around the world make up a seventh? There may be an answer to that question.
An answer that, with a little astrophysics, could lead us to one of the oldest stories humans have ever told. [♪ INTRO] The story of the Pleiades as seven women is remarkably widespread around the world. In Greek mythology, the seven stars of the Pleiades are the seven daughters of the Titan Atlas, who was chased by the hunter Orion. The god Zeus scooped up the seven sisters and placed them in the sky as stars, out of the reach of the nefarious Orion.
Hindu epics call them seven wives of wise men, some Aboriginal Australian cultures call them the seven water girls, and legends from the Western Mono of North America call them seven wives who were thrown out of their homes for eating too many onions. Which is harsh, but… Onion breath. I get it.
The stories aren’t ubiquitous. In Japan, for example, the cluster is referred to as having six stars. You can even see this in the logo of Japanese car maker Subaru, which might as well be the unofficial state car here in Montana.
Still, with so many cultures with such similar stories about such a specific, incorrect number of stars, one starts to wonder: is this a coincidence, or some remarkable common thread throughout humanity? Aboriginal Australians and ancient Greeks, for example, had not been in contact since their ancestors left Africa a minimum of sixty thousand years ago. Yet they tell similar stories.
Does that mean they brought the same story out of Africa with them? Could the story of the seven sisters be tens of thousands of years old? That would make it one of the oldest stories we know about.
To find out, let’s look at the stars themselves. With modern astronomy, we now know the Pleiades are part of an open star cluster, that is, a grouping of stars all born around the same time from the same huge dust cloud. With a telescope, we can see that the Pleiades actually have over a thousand stars.
But our ancestors in ancient times didn’t have telescopes, so let’s focus on what we can see with our own eyes. Unless you’ve got spectacular eyesight, you can probably see six stars. And even if you can see more than six, it’s probably way more than seven!
Some of the Pleiades myths actually acknowledge this mystery, with an explanation of how the seventh sister went missing. The Greeks, for example, said that one of the divine sisters went into hiding for the shame of marrying a mortal man. And there are more cultures than just the Greeks that acknowledge the missing seventh sister.
The Nez Perce, a nation of Indigenous people from the region around Idaho and Oregon, told that one sister fell in love with a mortal man. When he died and she was grieving, she felt her sisters were ashamed, so she hid herself behind a veil, leaving only six sisters visible in the sky. I mean, basically the same story!
This brings us back to the beginning: what the heck is going on with that missing seventh star? Why do all these people across time and space on Earth agree there’s a seventh star, where did it go, and when did it disappear? One group of researchers thinks they may have figured it out.
According to their calculations, if you track the motions of the stars, you can see that a seventh bright star may have actually been visible 100,000 years ago — we’ll come back to that time frame in a minute. Stars move across the night sky in a couple of ways. They appear to us to be moving because Earth is spinning around its axis and moving in its orbit around the Sun.
At the same time, stars are actually moving through space. Astronomers record how much stars really move on the night sky, not including the motion that we only see because of the spinny little vantage point on our homeworld. This is known as a star’s proper motion, usually measured in tiny fractions of a degree per year.
The researchers thinking about the Pleiades used these measured proper motions to predict where the stars of the Pleiades may have been hundreds of thousands of years ago. With this method, the scientists found that two of the Pleiades — Atlas and Pleione — might have been far enough apart that our eyes could see them as two separate stars back in the day. They claim that now we only see six because they’re too close together for our eyes to tell them apart without help from binoculars or a telescope.
One small problem. This finding was presented in a chapter in a book, where you’re not required to show your work in as much detail as you would be in a paper in a journal. So we had to check it ourselves.
Yes, really. We asked an astrophysicist to check this and she did the math. Here it is.
What this shows is that yes, indeed, Atlas and Pleione used to be farther apart. Maybe far enough to see them as two separate objects with the naked eye. It’s an amazing idea, but there are a few issues that we’ll get to after this quick break.
Thanks to Squarespace for supporting this SciShow video! We sell a ton of merch at Complexly, so we know how important a good online store is. On the Squarespace Commerce platform, you can showcase your products and reviews and get paid all in one place.
It’s not just for t-shirts and mugs either. You can invoice clients and put together proposals, estimates, and contracts on Squarespace too. Then, to reap the fruits of your labor, Squarespace Payments lets you give your customers more ways to pay.
You can use all sorts of popular payment methods from Apple Pay to Clearpay. Head to Squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, go to www.squarespace.com/SCISHOW to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. So.
We have the claim from these authors that our ancestors would have been able to see seven stars around 100,000 years ago. That supports the idea that stories about the Pleiades have been around since ancient humans were all bopping around together in Africa. It’s a really cool idea, but we have to note a couple of possible snags in the narrative these researchers present.
The stars in the Pleiades are quite young, and young stars surrounded by dust can sometimes be variable in their brightness. The “Atlas and Pleione on the move” idea doesn’t account for the fact that maybe one of these could have been way brighter or fainter in the past. And when we talk about hundred thousand year timescales there’s a lot more to consider with how stars move that we didn’t really talk about.
For example, Earth’s orbit is even more complicated than the spin around our axis and our orbit around the Sun. The circularity of Earth’s orbit and the tilt and wobble of Earth’s axis are subject to change over tens of thousands of years. All of these things could contribute to Atlas and Pleione appearing in slightly different places than our simple calculation from proper motion predicts.
Plus, even a tiny margin of error could matter a lot here — as far as humans leaving Africa compared to the time scales of the universe. And, quick note from when we were fact checking this script. The authors of the piece say that the ancestors of the Aboriginal Australians left Africa a hundred thousand years ago, but we aren’t completely sure where they got that number.
The scholarly consensus seems to be that although some humans left Africa much earlier, the bulk of the migration was only around 60,000 years ago. It still works if you imagine that the stars were visible a hundred thousand years ago and people were still telling that story by the time the migration happened, but still, just pointing that out. The independent scholar Jon White also notes that some versions of the stories of the seven sisters are actually more different from each other than they seem at first glance.
Like, the Aboriginal Australian stories focus a lot more on water and ritual than the Greek myth. Plus, there are a whole bunch of other Pleiades stories we haven’t even mentioned! Maōri mythology called them Matariki, and they represented the eyes of a god lost in battle.
Hawaiian mo’olelo tales say that a greedy nobleman hoarded food and stored it in the sky, out of reach, until a little mouse came along and gnawed the ropes of the net until the food fell back down to the people on the islands. Those are only two examples, and there are plenty more – and I’d say they’re both pretty different from seven sisters! So, after considering all this, did this story of the Pleiades travel out of Africa with us?
Did people notice a star disappearing over time, and adjust the story to it? It’s really hard to be sure, but this is a neat and at least somewhat scientifically backed idea. Plus, it’s pretty incredible to think about humans telling stories about stars for so many thousands and thousands of years that a star was able to move through the sky and disappear.
What an amazing way to preserve the history of the sky itself – and connect us all at the same time. [♪ OUTRO]



