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So you want to make the perfect red pigment—something vibrant, something that won't fade, and something that isn't toxic. Good luck, because scientists are still working that out. But in their search, some are taking the whole "pigment" part out of the challenge, by turning to structural color instead.
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So you want to make the perfect red pigment—something vibrant, something that won't fade, and something that isn't toxic. Good luck, because scientists are still working that out. But in their search, some are taking the whole "pigment" part out of the challenge, by turning to structural color instead.
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Making the perfect red pigment is surprisingly hard.
We can nail the color, of course. Bright red is already out there in paintings, mugs, and Ferraris.
But the ideal source of red isn’t just vibrant. It’s durable. And non-toxic.
All at the same time. We have found a pigment like this for many other colors in the rainbow. But so far, we have yet to find that ultimate red, either in nature or in the lab.
It turns out, much of the science behind creating specific colors is still unknown, which makes engineering new colors hard. So scientists are trying a bunch of different approaches to making that perfect red and seeing which one sticks. And one of them doesn’t use any pigments at all. [♪ INTRO] To precisely define red, I first have to explain a little about how colors work.
Ultimately, colors are created by our brains, based on electrical signals that come from the backs of our eyeballs. But it starts with light. Light is made up of electromagnetic waves that we often depict as sine waves with different wavelengths.
Humans can only see the wavelengths between roughly 400 and 700 nanometers. 400 is the violet end of the rainbow. 700 is the red. Anything outside that range doesn’t play well with the biology of our eyes, and is essentially invisible unless technology helps translate for us. Now, light itself can appear to have a color, depending on the exact blend of wavelengths that are involved and how they compare to generic white sunlight.
But much like we’re going to focus on light instead of the human brain, we’re going to focus on light interacting with an object we perceive as having color. One main way we get color is through special molecules called pigments. When light hits a pigment molecule, some combination of wavelengths gets absorbed, effectively removing them from the world.
The rest gets reflected and produces the actual color. Exactly which wavelengths are absorbed has to do with the pigment molecule’s electrons. Specifically, how much energy the electrons can absorb to change where they’re hanging out.
We’ll get into a little more detail later, but for now, the important thing to know is each wavelength of light has its own corresponding energy. To get a true red, a pigment must absorb all wavelengths except those in the red part of the spectrum. Roughly 620 to 700 nanometers.
If any other wavelengths sneak past, they’ll muddy the hue. Now, everyone who’s had the misfortune of eating a Red Delicious Apple knows red pigments exist in nature. And humans have been using some of them for centuries, if not millennia, in paintings, textiles, and ceramics.
But there’s usually something that keeps them just shy of perfection. For example, red can come from organic materials like carmine, made by grinding up female cochineal beetles. Carmine’s been used for thousands of years in the Americas in paintings and textiles.
And it’s still used today in red food dye and some red cosmetics. But carmine, like all organic reds, fades over time when exposed to light. Life, even in death, is fleeting.
So to get something that can truly last, people have tried pivoting away from life to instead make red pigments out of rocks. Red ochre, for example, is a pigment made from an iron oxide mineral called hematite…which basically is a block of rust. Unlike organic reds, red ochre doesn’t fade over time.
In fact, cave paintings from 20,000 years ago that used red ochre still look red. Well, red-ish. Red ochre’s Achilles heel is that it isn’t truly red.
To me it looks kind of like rusty reddish orange-ish but scientists can also confirm that it’s not true red quantitatively. If we measure which wavelengths it reflects instead of absorbs, we can see that the reflected wavelengths include oranges and yellows, leading to that brownish tint. There’s another red rock pigment called vermilion that’s also been used for forever in art, and it’s actually quantitatively red.
Vermilion’s made from cinnabar, a mineral found near volcanoes or hot springs, and we can also make it from scratch ourselves. Yay chemistry! And yay Pokémon for teaching me how to pronounce those things.
But vermilion’s durability is hit-or-miss. Sometimes it’s fine. Other times, it chemically reacts to light and chlorine in the air and turns black.
Definitely not red. What’s worse, vermilion’s chemical make-up includes the element mercury, which is highly toxic. So unfortunately, we can’t depend on nature for a good red that both stands the test of time and is poison-free.
So instead, we’ve been trying to make red ourselves using inorganic materials. But making specific colors from scratch is hard. There are lots of variables that play into getting the pigment molecule’s electrons to absorb the right wavelengths…such as the types of atoms in the material, and the distance between them.
And right now, we aren’t quite able to predict exactly which color will come out of different combinations of these variables. The only way to know is to just make it in real life and see. But scientists do at least know several general mechanisms behind how inorganic materials produce color, and they’re following these different leads in search of the elusive perfect red.
Which I will get to, right after I show you this quick ad. Hey SciShow viewer! You’re learning a lot right now.
But hopefully it doesn’t feel hard like some of your classes might have back in the day. These days, we have online learning that can be interactive and cater to your learning style. That’s one advantage that this video’s sponsor, Brilliant, brings to the table.
Brilliant is the online personal tutor for students of math, science, and engineering. If you’re in college or have kids in school, then Brilliant’s tutor, Koji, was made for you. Koji works with students in grade 5 through undergrad.
To get started with Brilliant’s tutor for free, click the link below or scan the QR code. You can upgrade to Premium to unlock all courses. And right now, SciShow viewers can save 20% off an annual subscription at brilliant.org/scishow One lead involves semiconductors, which as the name suggests, are conductors only some of the time.
When all their electrons are stuck close to their home atomic nuclei, the whole thing acts as an insulator. But if you give the electrons a sufficiently large energy boost, they’ll move a little further out, and flow freely between atoms. The semiconductor switches from insulator to conductor.
The amount of energy that’s needed to make this switch is called the band gap. And semiconductors can absorb any wavelengths with energy above that gap. In fact, this is why vermillion is so red.
Vermillion is a semiconductor! But for an example of a purely synthetic semiconductor pigment, we can also look to cadmium red. This pigment combines cadmium, sulfur, and selenium to make a brilliant red that’s incredibly durable, leading to its use in ceramics, plastics, and cars.
But cadmium is, say it with me, toxic. So researchers are looking at another type of semiconductor, called perovskites, in the hopes of achieving a non-toxic cadmium red. Perovskites are a class of materials that all feature a specific ratio of three different elements.
One of their selling points is that they’re resistant to high temperatures, making them suitable for being fired in ceramics. To get a proper red, a perovskite needs a band gap that allows the material to absorb all visible wavelengths besides red. But tuning the band gap isn’t straightforward.
There’s no magic knob labelled “band gap” you can adjust. Some researchers are approaching this challenge by playing around with different combinations of elements and their ratios. So far, they’ve been able to create a whole range of reds this way, but sadly, none of them are as vivid as cadmium red.
Meanwhile, other scientists are investigating metal oxides as yet another potential solution to our pigment problem. Now, not all metal oxides can work as pigments. In fact, most can’t, because of their chemical structure.
In an atom, generally speaking, every electron has a designated region of space that it’s allowed to metaphorically bounce around in. This space is called an orbital. For a metal oxide to give off color, electrons living in one specific type of orbital must be able to jump to another version of that same orbital.
But physics doesn’t normally allow that. It can only happen if the molecule’s structure has a specific kind of geometric asymmetry. But in the rare case it has that, an electron will make that jump, both absorbing the appropriate wavelength of light as per usual, and also reflecting the complementary color.
One chemist named Mas Subramanian has been trying to use asymmetric metal oxides to make the perfect red pigment. He stumbled upon this approach in 2009, when one of his grad students accidentally made the bluest blue pigment. It’s called YInMn blue, due to its composition of yttrium, indium, and manganese.
Since then, he’s made a range of other “perfect” colors by swapping out different chemical elements. In a 2024 paper, he took a stab at making red by creating a metal oxide centered around a metal chromium ion, which has a similar chemical structure to the manganese ion in YInMn blue. This specific chromium ion, however, requires a super low oxygen environment to exist.
Like, what you’d find on the Moon low. So it took some work to wrangle the new chemical together, but he got it! Except after all that work, the resulting pigment wasn’t quite red…but rather reddish-magenta.
So we still haven’t really been successful with inorganic materials in getting a truly red pigment that’s also durable and non-toxic. But there’s still time and hope. While we wait for more news out of these camps, other scientists are tackling the red problem in a completely different way: Using a method for producing color that gets rid of pigments entirely.
Unlike pigments that produce color by absorbing light at the atomic scale, structural color produces color at the macroscale, using the structure of an object’s surface to scatter light. Here’s how it works. When a ray of light hits the surface of a structural color, some of it reflects.
No surprise, there. But then, that reflected wave can interact with another bit of reflected light. In some cases, two interacting waves will perfectly align, which winds up reinforcing their color.
Other times, they're perfectly out of sync, canceling each other out so the corresponding color can’t be seen. Light waves can also exist in the middle of these two situations, with partial reinforcement and partial cancellation. One example of structural color is the iridescence on a soap bubble.
The soapy shell isn’t the exact same thickness all the way around, so depending on exactly where light hits the bubble, different colors get reinforced or cancelled out. This produces a whole rainbow of colors. But of course we aren’t looking for a rainbow right now.
We need something a lot more fancy and fine-tuned than you can get with one of these. In a paper from 2022, one team of scientists tried making a structural red by stacking together layers of silver and silicon. The idea was to carefully eliminate all non-red colors by using each layer to get different wavelengths of light to cancel out.
And it worked really well! They got a nice bright red…but it only looks that way at certain angles. Specifically, within 60 degrees of a straight-on view.
This angle-dependent behavior is one of structural color’s primary pain points. Getting wavelengths to exactly line up to cancel requires knowing exactly how they travel through space to your eyes. And if you change where you stand, that changes the whole calculation!
Another team of physicists tried to tackle this angle problem by using microscopic capsules of nanoparticles suspended in water. Each nanoparticle had a polystyrene core, surrounded by a hydrogel shell. The physicists did a bunch of calculations and experiments to figure out the best size and spacing of nanoparticles to get red in all directions.
And according to the math, everything seemed to work. But in reality, instead of red, they ended up with pink. Turns out, they made an assumption in their calculations that wasn’t true: that all light hits the surface of these particles once.
In reality, some light rays did only reflect once. In which case, red light was successfully enforced while the other colors were canceled. But for some light, after that first bounce, it kept bouncing, shifting the alignment of some non-red waves so that they no longer canceled out.
Together, all these extra colors added a white hue, turning the red pink. While it’s not at all like accidentally turning your sheets pink by washing them with a stray red sock, the feeling of disappointment is surely similar. The perfect red may elude us for now, but there’s plenty of imperfect options to hold us over.
And whether scientists find the eventual answer in YInMn blue’s cousin or a suspension of nanoparticles, I’m sure there’s at least one Ferrari fan who’s gonna say it still doesn’t look quite right. No shade to Ferrari! I don’t know F1.
I don’t watch cars! [♪ OUTRO]
We can nail the color, of course. Bright red is already out there in paintings, mugs, and Ferraris.
But the ideal source of red isn’t just vibrant. It’s durable. And non-toxic.
All at the same time. We have found a pigment like this for many other colors in the rainbow. But so far, we have yet to find that ultimate red, either in nature or in the lab.
It turns out, much of the science behind creating specific colors is still unknown, which makes engineering new colors hard. So scientists are trying a bunch of different approaches to making that perfect red and seeing which one sticks. And one of them doesn’t use any pigments at all. [♪ INTRO] To precisely define red, I first have to explain a little about how colors work.
Ultimately, colors are created by our brains, based on electrical signals that come from the backs of our eyeballs. But it starts with light. Light is made up of electromagnetic waves that we often depict as sine waves with different wavelengths.
Humans can only see the wavelengths between roughly 400 and 700 nanometers. 400 is the violet end of the rainbow. 700 is the red. Anything outside that range doesn’t play well with the biology of our eyes, and is essentially invisible unless technology helps translate for us. Now, light itself can appear to have a color, depending on the exact blend of wavelengths that are involved and how they compare to generic white sunlight.
But much like we’re going to focus on light instead of the human brain, we’re going to focus on light interacting with an object we perceive as having color. One main way we get color is through special molecules called pigments. When light hits a pigment molecule, some combination of wavelengths gets absorbed, effectively removing them from the world.
The rest gets reflected and produces the actual color. Exactly which wavelengths are absorbed has to do with the pigment molecule’s electrons. Specifically, how much energy the electrons can absorb to change where they’re hanging out.
We’ll get into a little more detail later, but for now, the important thing to know is each wavelength of light has its own corresponding energy. To get a true red, a pigment must absorb all wavelengths except those in the red part of the spectrum. Roughly 620 to 700 nanometers.
If any other wavelengths sneak past, they’ll muddy the hue. Now, everyone who’s had the misfortune of eating a Red Delicious Apple knows red pigments exist in nature. And humans have been using some of them for centuries, if not millennia, in paintings, textiles, and ceramics.
But there’s usually something that keeps them just shy of perfection. For example, red can come from organic materials like carmine, made by grinding up female cochineal beetles. Carmine’s been used for thousands of years in the Americas in paintings and textiles.
And it’s still used today in red food dye and some red cosmetics. But carmine, like all organic reds, fades over time when exposed to light. Life, even in death, is fleeting.
So to get something that can truly last, people have tried pivoting away from life to instead make red pigments out of rocks. Red ochre, for example, is a pigment made from an iron oxide mineral called hematite…which basically is a block of rust. Unlike organic reds, red ochre doesn’t fade over time.
In fact, cave paintings from 20,000 years ago that used red ochre still look red. Well, red-ish. Red ochre’s Achilles heel is that it isn’t truly red.
To me it looks kind of like rusty reddish orange-ish but scientists can also confirm that it’s not true red quantitatively. If we measure which wavelengths it reflects instead of absorbs, we can see that the reflected wavelengths include oranges and yellows, leading to that brownish tint. There’s another red rock pigment called vermilion that’s also been used for forever in art, and it’s actually quantitatively red.
Vermilion’s made from cinnabar, a mineral found near volcanoes or hot springs, and we can also make it from scratch ourselves. Yay chemistry! And yay Pokémon for teaching me how to pronounce those things.
But vermilion’s durability is hit-or-miss. Sometimes it’s fine. Other times, it chemically reacts to light and chlorine in the air and turns black.
Definitely not red. What’s worse, vermilion’s chemical make-up includes the element mercury, which is highly toxic. So unfortunately, we can’t depend on nature for a good red that both stands the test of time and is poison-free.
So instead, we’ve been trying to make red ourselves using inorganic materials. But making specific colors from scratch is hard. There are lots of variables that play into getting the pigment molecule’s electrons to absorb the right wavelengths…such as the types of atoms in the material, and the distance between them.
And right now, we aren’t quite able to predict exactly which color will come out of different combinations of these variables. The only way to know is to just make it in real life and see. But scientists do at least know several general mechanisms behind how inorganic materials produce color, and they’re following these different leads in search of the elusive perfect red.
Which I will get to, right after I show you this quick ad. Hey SciShow viewer! You’re learning a lot right now.
But hopefully it doesn’t feel hard like some of your classes might have back in the day. These days, we have online learning that can be interactive and cater to your learning style. That’s one advantage that this video’s sponsor, Brilliant, brings to the table.
Brilliant is the online personal tutor for students of math, science, and engineering. If you’re in college or have kids in school, then Brilliant’s tutor, Koji, was made for you. Koji works with students in grade 5 through undergrad.
To get started with Brilliant’s tutor for free, click the link below or scan the QR code. You can upgrade to Premium to unlock all courses. And right now, SciShow viewers can save 20% off an annual subscription at brilliant.org/scishow One lead involves semiconductors, which as the name suggests, are conductors only some of the time.
When all their electrons are stuck close to their home atomic nuclei, the whole thing acts as an insulator. But if you give the electrons a sufficiently large energy boost, they’ll move a little further out, and flow freely between atoms. The semiconductor switches from insulator to conductor.
The amount of energy that’s needed to make this switch is called the band gap. And semiconductors can absorb any wavelengths with energy above that gap. In fact, this is why vermillion is so red.
Vermillion is a semiconductor! But for an example of a purely synthetic semiconductor pigment, we can also look to cadmium red. This pigment combines cadmium, sulfur, and selenium to make a brilliant red that’s incredibly durable, leading to its use in ceramics, plastics, and cars.
But cadmium is, say it with me, toxic. So researchers are looking at another type of semiconductor, called perovskites, in the hopes of achieving a non-toxic cadmium red. Perovskites are a class of materials that all feature a specific ratio of three different elements.
One of their selling points is that they’re resistant to high temperatures, making them suitable for being fired in ceramics. To get a proper red, a perovskite needs a band gap that allows the material to absorb all visible wavelengths besides red. But tuning the band gap isn’t straightforward.
There’s no magic knob labelled “band gap” you can adjust. Some researchers are approaching this challenge by playing around with different combinations of elements and their ratios. So far, they’ve been able to create a whole range of reds this way, but sadly, none of them are as vivid as cadmium red.
Meanwhile, other scientists are investigating metal oxides as yet another potential solution to our pigment problem. Now, not all metal oxides can work as pigments. In fact, most can’t, because of their chemical structure.
In an atom, generally speaking, every electron has a designated region of space that it’s allowed to metaphorically bounce around in. This space is called an orbital. For a metal oxide to give off color, electrons living in one specific type of orbital must be able to jump to another version of that same orbital.
But physics doesn’t normally allow that. It can only happen if the molecule’s structure has a specific kind of geometric asymmetry. But in the rare case it has that, an electron will make that jump, both absorbing the appropriate wavelength of light as per usual, and also reflecting the complementary color.
One chemist named Mas Subramanian has been trying to use asymmetric metal oxides to make the perfect red pigment. He stumbled upon this approach in 2009, when one of his grad students accidentally made the bluest blue pigment. It’s called YInMn blue, due to its composition of yttrium, indium, and manganese.
Since then, he’s made a range of other “perfect” colors by swapping out different chemical elements. In a 2024 paper, he took a stab at making red by creating a metal oxide centered around a metal chromium ion, which has a similar chemical structure to the manganese ion in YInMn blue. This specific chromium ion, however, requires a super low oxygen environment to exist.
Like, what you’d find on the Moon low. So it took some work to wrangle the new chemical together, but he got it! Except after all that work, the resulting pigment wasn’t quite red…but rather reddish-magenta.
So we still haven’t really been successful with inorganic materials in getting a truly red pigment that’s also durable and non-toxic. But there’s still time and hope. While we wait for more news out of these camps, other scientists are tackling the red problem in a completely different way: Using a method for producing color that gets rid of pigments entirely.
Unlike pigments that produce color by absorbing light at the atomic scale, structural color produces color at the macroscale, using the structure of an object’s surface to scatter light. Here’s how it works. When a ray of light hits the surface of a structural color, some of it reflects.
No surprise, there. But then, that reflected wave can interact with another bit of reflected light. In some cases, two interacting waves will perfectly align, which winds up reinforcing their color.
Other times, they're perfectly out of sync, canceling each other out so the corresponding color can’t be seen. Light waves can also exist in the middle of these two situations, with partial reinforcement and partial cancellation. One example of structural color is the iridescence on a soap bubble.
The soapy shell isn’t the exact same thickness all the way around, so depending on exactly where light hits the bubble, different colors get reinforced or cancelled out. This produces a whole rainbow of colors. But of course we aren’t looking for a rainbow right now.
We need something a lot more fancy and fine-tuned than you can get with one of these. In a paper from 2022, one team of scientists tried making a structural red by stacking together layers of silver and silicon. The idea was to carefully eliminate all non-red colors by using each layer to get different wavelengths of light to cancel out.
And it worked really well! They got a nice bright red…but it only looks that way at certain angles. Specifically, within 60 degrees of a straight-on view.
This angle-dependent behavior is one of structural color’s primary pain points. Getting wavelengths to exactly line up to cancel requires knowing exactly how they travel through space to your eyes. And if you change where you stand, that changes the whole calculation!
Another team of physicists tried to tackle this angle problem by using microscopic capsules of nanoparticles suspended in water. Each nanoparticle had a polystyrene core, surrounded by a hydrogel shell. The physicists did a bunch of calculations and experiments to figure out the best size and spacing of nanoparticles to get red in all directions.
And according to the math, everything seemed to work. But in reality, instead of red, they ended up with pink. Turns out, they made an assumption in their calculations that wasn’t true: that all light hits the surface of these particles once.
In reality, some light rays did only reflect once. In which case, red light was successfully enforced while the other colors were canceled. But for some light, after that first bounce, it kept bouncing, shifting the alignment of some non-red waves so that they no longer canceled out.
Together, all these extra colors added a white hue, turning the red pink. While it’s not at all like accidentally turning your sheets pink by washing them with a stray red sock, the feeling of disappointment is surely similar. The perfect red may elude us for now, but there’s plenty of imperfect options to hold us over.
And whether scientists find the eventual answer in YInMn blue’s cousin or a suspension of nanoparticles, I’m sure there’s at least one Ferrari fan who’s gonna say it still doesn’t look quite right. No shade to Ferrari! I don’t know F1.
I don’t watch cars! [♪ OUTRO]







